Data Storage Ideas

Taco Loco

Tired and Lazy, married to ‘The Laundry Fairy’
I have about 3T of photos, and I like to have backup on seperate drives to have a copy of every photo or document, so 6T total.

I have tons of those portable hd's, few old laptops/CPUs and 30 digi tapes video cam and I need to consolidate my data....

Since we moved, I never set up the desktop CPUs and those have about 4 to 6 large sata drives, probably will never buy a desktop cpu ever again and 3 laptops and external drives.

No interested in any type of offsite cloud/storage.

Any suggestions please


Looking for some ideals maybe external harddrive bank with like 5T type harddrives??
 
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Taco Loco

Tired and Lazy, married to ‘The Laundry Fairy’

tx_shooter

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NAS with RAID 5 and then take quarterly (or monthly) snapshots to put in the fire safe or safe deposit box.
 

italynstylion

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I work in data protection for IBM and practice what I preach at home. You need to think about what your disaster recovery scenario is going to look like. Let me explain...

For me, I have roughly 2TB of music, movies and docs. So I think "what am I protecting AGAINST? For me, it's accidental deletion, modification, corruption, or a server/drive failure. I have two home servers. One is a RAID10 built with 4TB drives. It offers protection at the DRIVE layer (meaning I can lose drives and be ok). I sync everything to another server downstairs that simply has two 2TB drives in it that receive the sync across my home network. I have it do this sync every night. There's logic built into it too so if the number of files changed exceeds X% it won't sync the changes (like in the event of a large scale deletion). Additionally, I have an offsite copy. For this, dropbox is pretty sweet. I use something called Boxifier to let me sync specific folders on the machine to Dropbox. Dropbox gives you a version history too that goes back 30 days (I think). For $10 per month, dropbox gives you 1TB which, for my music library and documents, is plenty. I don't include my movie library in the offsite backups. It's a huge amount of data and to be honest, if the house burns down, I'm not going to give a flying fuck what happened to my movies....just my documents and music.

Not sure exactly what your situation is but I agree with Zech that you should end up with a NAS device. Drobo and Synology make excellent devices and Qnap does too. Plex (a media server application) now has a version that runs on all of them so you can offload your media library streaming to that device. All newer NAS devices allow you to specify how you want things configured. Two things that are pretty cool though. Some of them allow you to also sync copies of your data out to the cloud. You simply put in your credentials for your Cloud Storage and it handles the rest. Lastly, RAID type (historically) had to be set/defined when you first setup the device. I know the Drobo has something called "Beyond RAID" which is a sort of dynamic RAID. As an example, maybe you start out with those 2x5TB drives in the beginning. It will operate as a RAID1 mirror. Later on you add another drive or two and it will dynamically expand and rebalance the volume across the new drives; even if they aren't the same size drive. Pretty nifty if you ask me.
 

tx_shooter

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Still awesome. lol

I have a 500 Gb Intel SSD in my laptop and it is awesome.
 
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italynstylion

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Well yeah, SSD would be lovely to have a ton of...for the rest of us plebeians, large spinning platters will have to do.
 

Taco Loco

Tired and Lazy, married to ‘The Laundry Fairy’
Still awesome. lol

I have a 500 Gb Intel SSD in my laptop and it is awesome.

SSD can fail, a few SSD drives in laptops at work have failed, they spent $1500 each to recover the data
 

tx_shooter

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Well yeah, SSD would be lovely to have a ton of...for the rest of us plebeians, large spinning platters will have to do.

Plebeians? You have servers in your house! lol As for failing SSDs; the earlier drives were a crap shoot. The latest Intel drives (and a few other companies) are a much more stable product. They even have 3 year warranties now. That was the part that convinced me to try them out now. They used to only have a 1 year warranty and some had less than that.

The Intel 540 SSD 1Tb of storage is only $290 on NewEgg. While that is not dirt cheap; it is cheap enough to setup a RAID1 mirror with some hot performance.
 

italynstylion

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One thing I'd advise on the SSD drives, keep your defragmentation schedule way less frequent. SSD drives have a limited number of writes before the sector of storage dies. So you don't want it defragging (moving) all your data all the time. However, it does still need to be done (as I've recently discovered). You could set it to run every month or so and be just fine.
 

tx_shooter

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Defrag practices is partially what led to early SSD deaths. If you are not having fragmentation issues - don't do it.
 

italynstylion

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Defrag practices is partially what led to early SSD deaths. If you are not having fragmentation issues - don't do it.
So....I ran into that recently. I'd had my defragmentation on my work laptop drive turned off since I got it for exactly that reason. Recently, my locally installed email client started crashing. And I mean, like 4-6 times per day. To the point it was unusable. Started thinking about what had changed recently and realized I'd deleted a bunch of emails from folders of clients I no longer cover. Basically, the local mail database had been fragmented in a terrible fashion and with no defrag enabled the mail client would barf any time it had to pull data. I ran the defrag program and it was 27% fragmented. Worst I've seen. Took 12 hours to defrag....yes, on an SSD. Once I finished that I haven't had an issue since then.

In short, SSD still needs a defrag but on a MUCH less frequent basis. Lesson learned.
 

tx_shooter

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Good example and pretty much inline with what I have seen. Defragment is only as needed for stability issues.
 
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