Front View and Ground Clearance Cameras

italynstylion

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I've been talking about doing this for a long time. Had a few ideas of how to make it work with my Nexus 9 tablet setup but the project never really got off the ground. Recently I bought a Kenwood DMX7704S headunit because it has Android Auto, which I've grown to love. I also bought it because it has not one...but TWO camera inputs on the back of it. Combine that with the fact the Tacoma has it's own embedded rear view camera that displays in the rear view mirror (100% independent from the stereo) and this would give me 3 cameras in the truck.
Wonderful.
Great.
Good.

Now let's get to work.

Step 1: Get a good warm-up in before you start working. This includes the garage. Fucking 18 degrees outside and I don't care if the electricity bill will be high. I'm not working in the cold.

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Step 2: Make some indestructible cables for your cameras. You'll need a signal cable and one for power. My cameras were cheap on Amazon but came with very long RCA style connector cables so I used those. The power cable I soldered myself. Then I wrapped the entire 15ft length of each cable in electrical tape to bind them together and protect them. I then used a flex style sheath around them to prevent any type of abrasion from wearing through the cable.

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Step 3: Run those cables Ninja style. Making your own hole to exit the vehicle is effective. However, bonus points are awarded for those who find ways to use existing holes....partially because those holes come with existing grommets.

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Step 4: Run your cables up to the headunit. I tapped the power from the stereo harness to run the cameras. They are so low wattage it pretty much makes no difference so there's no need to fuse them individually. This is a great time to install the headunit. Actually, that's a lie. There's no great time to install a headunit. Never. Not ever. This picture is one that reminds me of why I went with a tablet install last time. Way less wires. But whatever; progress march on.

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Step 5: Start mounting cameras. I did the front one first. We'll discuss why in a moment. The front was pretty easy. I pretty much took a center spot in the lower grill section of the truck. The camera is hard to see in the picture but I promise it's there. You can see the cable terminations below the bumper ready to be finished. Once I mounted it permanently I used electrical tape on the connections followed by heat shrink. I wanted it to be water proof.....because....reasons.

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Step 6: Note the placement of the orange bucket in the last picture. If using a camera with a wide angle lens you'll be able to see a LOT of the area directly below the front bumper. This is perfect for those times you're going up a steep hill and can't see anything but the sky.

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Step 7: This is a work in progress and I may need some advice from y'all. I have the second cable coiled up and secured under the truck because I've not decided on placement for the camera yet. My original intent was to get a clean shot of the rear diff since it's the lowest point of the entire truck and tends to get hung up more than anything else. However, that's easier said than done. I'm looking for a good mounting point. I may even have to make one. I'm still not decided if the camera should face the rear of the truck and look at the diff so you can see objects as they approach the diff OR if I should mount it behind the diff looking forward. One thing that occurred to me is the diff moves up and down and keeping it in view could be a challenge. A possible solution to that would be to mount the camera to the diff. However, not sure how clean that would stay....

Open to feedback and happy to answer any questions you guys have. Cheers!
 
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unevolved

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Looks good!
 

tx_shooter

It is not a war crime the first time.
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This is a thread I have been looking forward too! Now I just need to adapt this for my '01 4Runner.
 

Silverback

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I have similar on my truck. Front and rear feeding a Kenwood unit. Mine also has a 3rd video input I can use and I have a 4 way camera splitter with a collection of cameras off Amazon. Thoughts are to mount a couple pointed front and aft underneath. That is another project for another day. Front and rear work great. Got to use the front one in Arkansas on that steep hill climb we did lunch at on the first day.. I watched A-A Ron bang a bit because he could not see the other side and none of us dickbags wanted to hike all the way up there to spot him. :) I just hit the front camera and I saw the other side of the drop and pointed where to go. I mounted mine above the winch in front and in my rear swingout in the rear.

Old pics
Front
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Rear
Well shit... no pics of the rear. But its in the middle of my rear swingout and its pointed down a smidge. Enough to back a trailer up to the ball or whatever.

Its right about here --v
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Anathollo

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@Silverback did you run extra wire for your rear camera? I was looking at places to mount mine with @thekidcatcher a couple of days ago. I was debating putting it on the swingout or underneath it.
 

Silverback

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@Silverback did you run extra wire for your rear camera? I was looking at places to mount mine with @thekidcatcher a couple of days ago. I was debating putting it on the swingout or underneath it.

I did, I drilled two holes in the swingout, one on the outside for the camera, then one on the inside of the swingout near the hinge for the wire to come out. Then I ran it in split loom all along the underside and into the cab.
 

Anathollo

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I did, I drilled two holes in the swingout, one on the outside for the camera, then one on the inside of the swingout near the hinge for the wire to come out. Then I ran it in split loom all along the underside and into the cab.
Good idea on running it inside. I wasn't wanting to use zip ties to hold the wire along the swingout on the outside. Thanks!
 

italynstylion

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I have similar on my truck. Front and rear feeding a Kenwood unit. Mine also has a 3rd video input I can use and I have a 4 way camera splitter with a collection of cameras off Amazon. Thoughts are to mount a couple pointed front and aft underneath. That is another project for another day. Front and rear work great. Got to use the front one in Arkansas on that steep hill climb we did lunch at on the first day.. I watched A-A Ron bang a bit because he could not see the other side and none of us dickbags wanted to hike all the way up there to spot him. :) I just hit the front camera and I saw the other side of the drop and pointed where to go. I mounted mine above the winch in front and in my rear swingout in the rear.
Awesome! What cameras did you use? I haven't gotten to really test mine out yet but I'm hoping the clarity is reasonable. I'm thinking I may use a different style camera under the truck that doesn't have as wide an angle lens.

I too had thought about using a multiplexer to feed more than one camera into a single input. I even bought the unit that I never ended up using. In the end, I realized it would be easier to just put each of the cameras on a switch. Meaning, you us an RCA "Y" connector to feed the signal from two cameras into a single input. Then, you use a toggle switch to turn on one of those cameras at a time by controlling the 12V power feed to it. So in the event I want more than the two cameras, that's what I'm going to end up doing.
 

tx_shooter

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@italynstylion any opinion on connecting cameras in these positions to a tablet over bluetooth or WiFi? I have become pretty addicted to using my tablet for navigation and could easily see flipping apps to connect to cameras when needed. This would make it easy to run them when needed and still have a single DIN simple head unit.
 

Anathollo

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@italynstylion any opinion on connecting cameras in these positions to a tablet over bluetooth or WiFi? I have become pretty addicted to using my tablet for navigation and could easily see flipping apps to connect to cameras when needed. This would make it easy to run them when needed and still have a single DIN simple head unit.
Damn good idea!
 

Anathollo

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Awesome! What cameras did you use? I haven't gotten to really test mine out yet but I'm hoping the clarity is reasonable. I'm thinking I may use a different style camera under the truck that doesn't have as wide an angle lens.

I too had thought about using a multiplexer to feed more than one camera into a single input. I even bought the unit that I never ended up using. In the end, I realized it would be easier to just put each of the cameras on a switch. Meaning, you us an RCA "Y" connector to feed the signal from two cameras into a single input. Then, you use a toggle switch to turn on one of those cameras at a time by controlling the 12V power feed to it. So in the event I want more than the two cameras, that's what I'm going to end up doing.
@thekidcatcher has 3 cameras hooked up to his Doubledin. One front, one rear and the one underneath is mounted to the forward gas tank strut looking at the rear diff IIRC.
 

tx_shooter

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We need more of this kind of info! I would have really liked having a camera in BBRSP. Then I might not have dented my slider.
 

Oswego

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We need more of this kind of info! I would have really liked having a camera in BBRSP. Then I might not have dented my slider.

I concur. I need to do this to the Taco someday and add dash cams to the Taco & Subaru. Just had a severely impaired driver in front of me for miles that I reported. Would of been great to be able to hand over a video to the trooper who got them. I typicaly never rat but when you spend more time out of your lane than in it....I'm game. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if the driver killed a family after I didn't report them. Don't need that Karma on me.
 

Taco Loco

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I concur. I need to do this to the Taco someday and add dash cams to the Taco & Subaru. Just had a severely impaired driver in front of me for miles that I reported. Would of been great to be able to hand over a video to the trooper who got them. I typicaly never rat but when you spend more time out of your lane than in it....I'm game. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if the driver killed a family after I didn't report them. Don't need that Karma on me.

Thank you.

That scenario happened in the Texas hill country last year, 13 killed 13 Seniors Dead After Truck Slams Into Church Van

I don’t ever have more than 2, maybe 3 beers and drive, not worth the risk, I know several folks/friends who have DWI’s, I also had some distance relatives on 2 different occasions die from drunk drivers, one of those drunks was in the process of being pulled over by DPS and the driver pulled over to park into the lane with coming traffic.
 

Silverback

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The cameras connected to my headunit do not record.
 

italynstylion

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I'm with y'all....if I can tell you're driving impaired from MY vehicle, I call that shit in. I don't even feel bad about it. Hell, you're probably saving the driver's life at the very least.

And like Silverback, my cameras don't record. Although I think you could probably get a separate part that accepts the feed from cameras first before it hits the receiver. But that's going to complicate things and you're better off just getting a Blackview camera or something similar. I agree that at this day and age it's all about what you can PROVE. People are nuts, I'm gearing up to put dash cams in all of our vehicles at some point.
 

italynstylion

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I've not seen any wireless cameras that seemed to fit the part really. And it sucks because the tablet is THE best place to view them. Bluetooth is likely a lost cause because it doesn't have the bandwidth for good video. Bluetooth 5.0 (just released) might but it's still a stretch. WiFi would be the way to go since you'd have plenty of bandwidth. The closest thing I came to that was a GoPro session and using the GoPro app on the tablet. You can view what the camera is seeing live (ok, very slightly delayed) over wifi but the problem is it isn't in HD and the quality was bad. That view is more for making sure the damn thing is pointed in the right direction; not for live viewing. I actually contacted GoPro and asked if they would consider a feature update to the firmware to allow it to stream HD to a tablet or phone. Never heard from them....dick bags.
 
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