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TacoXpo

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Also, let me add that I have worked closely with Attorneys nearly my entire career. When I was in my mid 20s, I negotiated the terms and conditions of wide-body aircraft. I met with attorneys every week and many weeks, everyday. (most of those that did what I did, had a JD.)

I was also a VP of legal affairs for a public company. I had a staff of attorneys and worked directly with many Attorneys General.

I have an a couple of attorneys I have used throughout my career. Thank God for me, all of their efforts were in the "Preventing Law" category.

I work in the second most litigious business in the US - second to medical - and only because of the money involved and NOT in my opinion, the level of injustice.

I also am preparing for a lawsuit with some asshole that I know. Incidentally, I tell all of my clients that I am going to represent them as the nicest people (firm but fair) so that others do not even contemplate suing them. In my book, nice people rarely get sued, assholes on the other side, can be a good target.
 

thekidcatcher

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When I was 5-7 the neighborhood moms would take turns putting 8-10 kids in a station wagon and taking us to a park. These days. There was never a fear of lawsuits for mishaps. Today you think twice of even helping a child for fear of being sued or worse yet, arrested.
--- I totally agree with you that it has become a society in which people are quick to pull the trigger. This of course has caused people to change their viewpoints and life styles. Now, in this case, if one of the mom's negligence was the cause of the death of a car full of kids would you deem in unfair for those families to seek damages? I mean of course no money will replace a child but I believe that if someone is the cause of another's death they should be held liable. People learn from mistakes, it is lucky when one can learn from the mistakes of others and not have to first hand.

During my 7th birthday party, my new friend bent over to pet our dog. Our dog bit the kid in the face. Although the dog had never been aggressive, we put the dog to sleep. When my family checked up on the child, the kid was proud of his facial scar - thought it made him look cool. - Today it would have been a law suit.
--- I'm the kid that got bitten in the face lol. It definitely would have been a lawsuit but that does not mean that it would have been one that was won. A good attorney would tell them that and then they could make the decision to waste time and money or cut their losses. (Lots of reasons this case would not stick). You are right in that the majority of the population (and I am going to say mostly ignorant and uneducated) feels they are entitled to everything and should just grab an attorney and sue. If you look at the cases that actually make it and are carried out, they usually are for something substantial.

My father was hit by a tractor trailer fuel truck. He was thrown from his car about 50 feet and landed on a small plot of grass. He had 7 broken ribs, two broken arms and a broken leg. My father did not sue but the fuel company gave him a check for $42,000. He took that money and found the best public school system in our state, bought a home and enrolled us in that school. He then traveled 2 hrs one way to work so that his kids would get the best education he could get us. Today that would have been multiple millions in a lawsuit.
--- I'm not sure exactly what you are getting at here. Your dad just cut out the middle man and settled. That is what the majority of litigation amounts to these days anyways. Yes, your dad could have filed suit and made a lot of money but he apparently thought that it was worth $42k. I feel like, based on your statements above, that for this story to be supportive, your father would have had to not have taken any amount of money. Not suing or settling would have portrayed that everyone was not after money and filing frivolous law suits. I promise you though, every person on this forum, in that instance, would lawyer up and go for gold. Sadly, the times of saying "shit happens" and moving on has been destroyed. I do admire your father still for his actions. He certainly could have made WAY more money had he decided to get a lawyer and pursue but he seems to be a very humble fellow, a rarity in this day and age.

When I was sick, home from school, you would always see ads for truck driving schools, cosmetology schools, electronics schools, etc. Then 1977 came along and we 'progressed' by allowing attorneys to advertise their services. Nowadays those advertisements are replaced on how to sue your neighbor, your workplace and your mom.
--- I hate this. I loathe the companies that do this and do not think it should be done. These sleazeballs are the reasons that attorneys that actually want to make a difference and do good are lumped in with the shady ones.

Fast forward to the OJ Trial and Court TV. This started our current situation whereby there are many fake and real (Judge Judy and that the other one are the only ones that I know that are not scripted) court shows. Here we teach snowflakes that the only way to settle something is to SUE THE BASTARDS!!! And sadly it is all about TV advertising revenues - what better platform is there to advertise for lawyers? That is the only reason you can pretty much find a local court show during almost any hour that someone may be unemployed or home from work. Entertaining but it certainly has seemed to increase the number of lawsuits.
--- Same. Hate these things in their portrayal of the profession and the message they convey. Same as the advertisements.

I once thought I would go to law school to become a Patent Attorney. I had a few friends that talked me out of it.
--- Sounds like you would have made a good one.
Then you look at the way society looks at professions I am not the only one that has one that is not admired by many.
--- Was actually just talking to classmate about willingly joining a profession that most hate lol.



I'm not saying it is an awful career choice, it's just one that requires a very thick skin. Sure there are different branches of the profession that can be better than another.

If you are going to thrive as an attorney - OWN IT. :) I will not be the only one that might have that opinion. Do what you love and that is all that matters. Be the best that you can be and you will be a superstar. Don't GAF about what others say AS LONG AS YOU ARE CONFIDENT IN WHAT YOU DO. That's all.
--- Thanks dad? lol jk. I have no doubt that you have your reasons for liking and disliking attorneys. I just did not understand the point of making our political debate into a personal attack of the profession I have chosen. Shit, political debates are fun and I believe they are great ideas; that is until they turn into a shit throwing competition and a stage for personal attacks.
 

TacoXpo

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lol
 

TacoXpo

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Making agreements that zips up nearly all holes for a dispute that doesn't already have an agreed upon resolution.
 

TacoXpo

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What were you thinking?
 

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thekidcatcher

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More of the prevention of the abuse of law rather than preventing the use of the law.
Sweet jesus the Tard thing is horrible but hilarious lol. I'm already over it. Now I am just interested to see what he is going to do really.
 

thekidcatcher

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"The only known effective treatment is exposure therapy. The patient must be repeatedly exposed to reality, and should wear a Make America Great Again hat as long as they are able to tolerate it." I cracked up at this.
We were discussing a case in contracts about Lee Marvin and one of his ladies that was not his wife. Classmate was describing the situation and stated that "Well he is Lee Marvin, you know, a white male. He can have whatever he wants now. Just go up and grab it" We all busted out laughing
 

thekidcatcher

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So for peace of mind.
You guys do not think that all Muslims are terrorist and that rape victims should be forced to have the child of their rapist right?
 

TacoXpo

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Well as pong as you are posting extemes as a position to take an absolute, do think 50% of all black babies should be killed?



50% of black children in NYC never get to breathe their first breath. Just saying.
 

thekidcatcher

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Wasn't my intention at all. I wanted to know my friends subjective thoughts on the two specific questions I posed. You are free to answer but may also ignore. Answering with a question does nothing though.

I will answer yours though because I'm not worried about being judged. Of course not, killing babies would be murder. No sane person would say that killing babies is ok. In addition, quoting a statistic from a certain region and making it universal is innacurate. My questions are subjective and do not have incorrect statistics in them.
 

AleMap

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Well as pong as you are posting extemes as a position to take an absolute, do think 50% of all black babies should be killed?

50% of black children in NYC never get to breathe their first breath. Just saying.

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thekidcatcher

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I'm with you lol. If you want to quote a statistic one should always make sure that it is accurate. If not that, at least make sure it is plausible. If some murderer/group murderers were running around New York killing African American children it would certainly be the main focal point of the news regardless of the political affiliation of the news station.

Clarification of my questions too since there was a misunderstanding. They by no means were fishing for an all encompassing answer. It was a question based for extremism. Obviously agreeing that a woman should not have to have a child conceived through rape does not mean that you have to wholeheartedly agree to abortion. Agreeing that all Muslims are not terrorist does not mean that some Muslims are not.

Just because you like trump and I do not certainly does not mean that we cannot share similarities. Example, we are both on an off-road website because we enjoy driving our vehicles off-road.
 
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So for peace of mind.
You guys do not think that all Muslims are terrorist and that rape victims should be forced to have the child of their rapist right?

Not at all. But I also don't think that the number of Muslims who really want to wipe out infidels is as low as Dear Leader would like you to believe.
 

TacoXpo

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Dear Democrats and Liberals,

I'm noticing that a lot of you aren't graciously accepting the fact that your candidate lost. In fact, you seem to be posting even more hateful things about those of us who voted for Trump.

Some of you are apparently "triggered" because you are posting how "sick" you feel about the results.

How did this happen you ask.

You created "us" when you attacked our freedom of speech.

You created "us" when you attacked our right to bear arms.

You created "us" when you attacked our Christian beliefs.

You created "us" when you constantly referred to us as racists.

You created "us" when you constantly called us xenophobic.

You created "us" when you told us to get on board or get out of the way.

You created "us" when you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating.

You created "us" when you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country.

You created "us" when you attacked our flag.

You created "us" when you confused women's rights with feminism.

You created "us" when you began to emasculate men.

You created "us" when you decided to make our children soft.

You created "us" when you decided to vote for progressive ideals.

You created "us" when you attacked our way of life and labeled us as "deplorables".

You created "us" when you decided to let our government get out of control.

"You" created "us", the silent majority.

And we became fed up and we pushed back and spoke up.

And we did it with ballots, not bullets.
 

TacoXpo

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So, you don't believe me about the abortion rates of black babies in NYC? Margaret Sanger is singing in her grave.

According to the report, in 2013 black women accounted for 29,007 terminated pregnancies, representing almost 42 percent of all abortions in the city. That same year, black women in the city gave birth to 24,108 babies. With abortions surpassing live births by nearly 5,000, African American women in the city clearly terminated pregnancies more often than they carried babies to term. Black women terminated pregnancies at a rate of 67.3 per 1,000 women ages 15 to 49, a rate far higher than any other racial or ethnic group.

We checked: the statistics were similar the previous year, when African American women in the cityhad 24,758 births and underwent 31,328 abortions.
Read more here: Cynthia Meyer says more black babies are aborted in New York City than born

I personally think this directly relates to black on black murder rate in the US. They have somehow learned that lives don't matter.
 

TacoXpo

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I'm with you lol. If you want to quote a statistic one should always make sure that it is accurate. If not that, at least make sure it is plausible. If some murderer/group murderers were running around New York killing African American children it would certainly be the main focal point of the news regardless of the political affiliation of the news station.

Clarification of my questions too since there was a misunderstanding. They by no means were fishing for an all encompassing answer. It was a question based for extremism. Obviously agreeing that a woman should not have to have a child conceived through rape does not mean that you have to wholeheartedly agree to abortion. Agreeing that all Muslims are not terrorist does not mean that some Muslims are not.

Just because you like trump and I do not certainly does not mean that we cannot share similarities. Example, we are both on an off-road website because we enjoy driving our vehicles off-road.
My bad. 67% of all NYC black pregnancies were terminated in an abortion in 2013. Is that good enough for you? :(
 
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