President Trump

[TacoXpo]

And if you don't know who Margaret Sanger was...

"Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated." So said Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood. Seventy-eight percent of Planned Parenthood clinics are in black neighborhoods. Blacks make up only 12% of the population, but 35% of America's aborted babies are black.​

 

[AleMap]

Too bad your mom didn't have one....

Is this guy off his meds or something? Is he always like this?

 

[TacoXpo]

I'm always like this.

 

[thekidcatcher]

Not at all. But I also don't think that the number of Muslims who really want to wipe out infidels is as low as Dear Leader would like you to believe.

Totally reasonable belief! There are always more bad people out there than we think.

My bad. 67% of all NYC black pregnancies were terminated in an abortion in 2013. Is that good enough for you?

Oh! Abortion rates. You did not say anything about abortion. You mentioned the killing of African American babies. I took your word for what you said, I will now know to try and find other possible meanings in what you say. No biggie!

 

[thekidcatcher]

I read the article. I can see how someone could come to accept the numbers as you did. It is not supported by enough details and evidence to be accurate though. I know you are a man of intelligence and that you know that the article is not wholly accurate.

 

[TacoXpo]

I read the article. I can see how someone could come to accept the numbers as you did. It is not supported by enough details and evidence to be accurate though. I know you are a man of intelligence and that you know that the article is not wholly accurate.

Be careful, you'll turn in to a lawyer. It is a well known deal that the abortion rates in the black community is typically much higher - partially due to Sanger's efforts and desire to squelch their population.

 

[thekidcatcher]

Score!. Now the African American rates being typically higher is accurate. That I cannot contend

 

[TacoXpo]

I don't need to argue facts with you, they may not matter to you.

Race/Ethnicity
Among the 27 areas that reported cross-classified race/ethnicity data for 2012 (Table 12), non-Hispanic white women and non-Hispanic black women accounted for the largest percentages of abortions (37.6% and 36.7%, respectively), and Hispanic women and non-Hispanic women in the other race category accounted for smaller percentages (18.7% and 7.0%, respectively). Non-Hispanic white women had the lowest abortion rate (7.7 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (127 abortions per 1,000 live births), and non-Hispanic black women had the highest abortion rate (27.8 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (435 abortions per 1,000 live births). Data for 2012 are also reported separately by race (Table 13) and by ethnicity (Table 14).

Among the 21 areas§§§§ that reported by race/ethnicity for 2007 (the first year with available data), and 2012, abortion rates decreased substantially for all three major racial/ethnic groups, with the greatest decrease occurring among Hispanic women. For non-Hispanic white women, the abortion rate decreased 18% (from 9.3 abortions per 1,000 women in 2007 to 7.6 in 2012), for non-Hispanic black women it decreased 18% (from 34.8 abortions per 1,000 women in 2007 to 28.6 in 2012) and for Hispanic women it decreased 26% (from 20.7 abortions per 1,000 women in 2007 to 15.3 in 2012). For abortion ratios the largest decrease from 2007 to 2012 occurred among non-Hispanic white women. For non-Hispanic white women, the abortion ratio decreased 14% (from 144 abortions per 1,000 live births in 2007 to 124 in 2012), for non-Hispanic black women it decreased 9% (from 486 abortions per 1,000 live births in 2007 to 444 in 2012), and for Hispanic women it decreased 5% (from 204 abortions per 1,000 live births in 2007 to 194 in 2012).

Source: Abortion Surveillance — United States, 2012​

 

[thekidcatcher]

As with the photo, a sincere cheers in your direction. Alas, the night for me has ended. Early morning and a hellish day tomorrow. I bid all a good night and I shall venture back here when I can but the weekdays are not conducive to internet play time.

 

[thekidcatcher]

Facts are all that matter! Lemme read the post...

 

[thekidcatcher]

Little confused. I agreed that African Americans have a higher average percentage than most and that is what that article proves. Also states that the rate is dropping and that it was never over 50%. I appreciate the numbers from a reliable source but I am not putting together how it supports your statement that 67% of African American woman in New York abort their fetuses.

 

[thekidcatcher]

Actually you are right, you proved me wrong. White woman have the highest count of abortions, not African Americans

 

[TacoXpo]

Actually you are right, you proved me wrong. White woman have the highest count of abortions, not African Americans

Count and percentages, two completely different things. And back to my point. Regardless of your view on abortion, anything approaching a 50% birth to extinguishing a life, is a sad state of affairs.

 

[TacoXpo]

Little confused. I agreed that African Americans have a higher average percentage than most and that is what that article proves. Also states that the rate is dropping and that it was never over 50%. I appreciate the numbers from a reliable source but I am not putting together how it supports your statement that 67% of African American woman in New York abort their fetuses.

Kinda simple math.

2013 black women accounted for 29,007 terminated pregnancies, representing almost 42 percent of all abortions in the city. That same year, black women in the city gave birth to 24,108 babies

29,007 (abortions)/29,007 + 24,108 (total number of potential births) = 29,007/53,115 = 54.6%

 

[AleMap]

Question: what about the costs of having potential child? Is there a burden to the system? What about medical bills and the like?

Why can't it be up to the woman to decide what she wants to do with her body?

How do the consequences of abortion affect you as an individual?

Why does it matter to you?

Edit: short answer is fine. No essay necessary.

 

[TacoXpo]

Question: what about the costs of having potential child? Is there a burden to the system? What about medical bills and the like?

Why can't it be up to the woman to decide what she wants to do with her body?

How do the consequences of abortion affect you as an individual?

Why does it matter to you?

Edit: short answer is fine. No essay necessary.

What is the cost of keeping you alive?

 

[AleMap]

What is the cost of keeping you alive?

My being alive or dead has no bearing on your country or your standpoints. Stay on topic. I'm giving you the respect to attempt to understand you. To be able to understand better I would like for you to answer those questions....truthfully.

 

[Taco Loco]

So for peace of mind.
You guys do not think that all Muslims are terrorist and that rape victims should be forced to have the child of their rapist right?

Nope not at all either, if it's rape the women has the decision, just to abort just because... not is not a reason.

From my own military and church ministries experience, Muslims that attend school in SouthWest Asia and North Africa, it is very common for the school, society, parents and mosques to preach hate against Christians and U.S. citizens, so probably like 90% are molded into hate and could become a terrorist.

Jason, I encourage you to visit over there....

 

[Mauzer]

Question: what about the costs of having potential child? Is there a burden to the system? What about medical bills and the like?

Why can't it be up to the woman to decide what she wants to do with her body?

How do the consequences of abortion affect you as an individual?

Why does it matter to you?

Edit: short answer is fine. No essay necessary.

1. The costs of a child should be considered before entering into the "act of conception." Babies don't just hop into a womans belly, they are the fruit of a biological process that we've all been taught. Lets learn to take responsibility for our actions
2. What system? We are not rationed a finite amount of resources, if I take on the responsibility of having a child I also take on the responsibility of providing for that child. I don't need the government or any "system" to care for my child.
3. Medical bills? I pay for my child's healthcare, not sure what the question is here?
4. NO ONE gets to decide to murder an innocent life...what about the child's body?
5. Abortion creates a culture of death that desensitizes society to the gift of life, it fosters a disregard for our fellow humans. Have you noticed the increased acceptance in "assisted suicide"?
6. It should matter to everyone, all life is precious and should be protected. If we don't protect the weakest in our society we are destined for failure.

Questions only added for emphasis and clarification.

 

[AleMap]

1. The costs of a child should be considered before entering into the "act of conception." Babies don't just hop into a womans belly, they are the fruit of a biological process that we've all been taught. Lets learn to take responsibility for our actions
2. What system? We are not rationed a finite amount of resources, if I take on the responsibility of having a child I also take on the responsibility of providing for that child. I don't need the government or any "system" to care for my child.
3. Medical bills? I pay for my child's healthcare, not sure what the question is here?
4. NO ONE gets to decide to murder an innocent life...what about the child's body?
5. Abortion creates a culture of death that desensitizes society to the gift of life, it fosters a disregard for our fellow humans. Have you noticed the increased acceptance in "assisted suicide"?
6. It should matter to everyone, all life is precious and should be protected. If we don't protect the weakest in our society we are destined for failure.

Questions only added for emphasis and clarification.

OK.... let's take it a step further. A woman is raped. Previous to that she had a job and could support herself but not a second life and is now dependent on the system (on welfare, food stamps, etc), can't afford the costs of raising a child.... now what?

You are paying your own way and now through your tax dollars you have to pay theirs. You still ok with this?

Edit: keep in mind I have never stated whether I am for or against any of these policies. I am only enquiring to gain understanding.