The Home Improvement Thread

tx_shooter

It is not a war crime the first time.
Staff member
You might save more, you might not. You can setup geofencing so that if both you and your spouse are away, the temp automatically adjusts up a few degrees. The nest is also smart enough to turn off your AC compressor and continue to blow air over the cooled off compressor until you reach your desired temp. You'll likely save that 10% or more just by not cooling an empty house.

Say your bill is $140 and you save 10%. That's $14 savings. It'll take you about 18 months to pay it off (and you can take it with you if you move). If you save more, then it pays off faster. If it takes longer, then you at least have the convenience that comes along with having it.

That is pretty much what I have calculated. The house is pretty well insulated and has energy efficient windows already. So it takes a bit of work to make a difference. I am currently working on a few little changes / upgrades to see which way makes the most sense. We are starting to work on a 2-3 year plan to move so anything would need to make a solid return within that timeline.
 

Oswego

n00b
To keep my sanity lately I keep designing and drawing the framing of a small 12' x 16' cabin. I keep changing it up as I learn more with the main focus being me needing to learn more. After this week I think Ive found my sweet spot. Foundation of helical or telephone pole piers (deep frost line + cabin to be 3-6' off the ground), advanced framing with 2x8's walls, rock-wool insulation, zip insulated sheathing w/zip liquid flashing for roof & walls, car decked flooring, steel roof at 30* or more pitch, steel siding, Woodstock soapstone stove, triple pane clear story windows, thick gauge HM out swing front door & ship lap or T&G pine interior walls/ceiling.

I'm finding it difficult to make it meet my expectations. #1 it needs to be secure from outsiders. #2 fire and storm proof. 3# low budget. #4 50+ year product life expectancy w/o major maintenance. Reminds me of an old salesman who used to say to me something like "service, quality, lead time & price...........pick 2 because you'll never get them all"

Will add some solar lighting but the cabin will be dry. Not messing major utilities and the BS that comes w/them.

BTW - I used to think my glass I sell was expensive until I started looking at "advanced products". Shits expensive to play with the big boys even on a small project.
 

PSU Taco85

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Is it the same program where the power company controls your AC unit during peak time? They tried dangling that carrot on me and I laughed. They wanted to charge me the same but have the power to control my usage from the plant. F that

I don't believe so, I'll let you know when I get mine hooked up. If it is, I'll be promptly putting my old "dummy" one back in. I believe you just download an app on your phone and it syncs to your personal wifi router.
 

CowboyTaco

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To keep my sanity lately I keep designing and drawing the framing of a small 12' x 16' cabin. I keep changing it up as I learn more with the main focus being me needing to learn more. After this week I think Ive found my sweet spot. Foundation of helical or telephone pole piers (deep frost line + cabin to be 3-6' off the ground), advanced framing with 2x8's walls, rock-wool insulation, zip insulated sheathing w/zip liquid flashing for roof & walls, car decked flooring, steel roof at 30* or more pitch, steel siding, Woodstock soapstone stove, triple pane clear story windows, thick gauge HM out swing front door & ship lap or T&G pine interior walls/ceiling.

I'm finding it difficult to make it meet my expectations. #1 it needs to be secure from outsiders. #2 fire and storm proof. 3# low budget. #4 50+ year product life expectancy w/o major maintenance. Reminds me of an old salesman who used to say to me something like "service, quality, lead time & price...........pick 2 because you'll never get them all"

Will add some solar lighting but the cabin will be dry. Not messing major utilities and the BS that comes w/them.

BTW - I used to think my glass I sell was expensive until I started looking at "advanced products". Shits expensive to play with the big boys even on a small project.

That's a lot of work for a small cabin. I'm guessing this is going to be a weekend getaway kind of place? Perhaps an undisclosed bugout location?

seriously though, why are you building a shed in the woods?
 

tex

That's Mr Asshole to you
That's a lot of work for a small cabin. I'm guessing this is going to be a weekend getaway kind of place? Perhaps an undisclosed bugout location?

seriously though, why are you building a shed in the woods?
Because people suck and having somewhere to get away from them would be nice.
 

CowboyTaco

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Because people suck and having somewhere to get away from them would be nice.

I don't disagree; but if I'm going to spend the money and make the effort, I'd prefer to have running water and more than a hole in the dirt to take a shit.
 

Oswego

n00b
That's a lot of work for a small cabin. I'm guessing this is going to be a weekend getaway kind of place? Perhaps an undisclosed bugout location?

seriously though, why are you building a shed inthe woods?

I'd trade my 4 bedroom 2 bathroom house on a court in a second for 20+ acres of raw land with a cabin on it.

This type of construction will cost more and take longer up front, but not in the long run. I'm playing chess not checkers if/when I build. That's why Ive been looking for land and planning for years at this point. Need the land first but the cabin dictates certain needs from the land. #1 being remote and forested (need wood for heat) #2 being un-level land (water cathcment w/o pumps or electric) #2 is staying away from neighbors (so I can have a shooting range and do what I want when I want w/o big brother looking 0ver my shoulder)

Cabin would be to get away, then possibly retire to and live off the land, and also a bug out spot.

Much easier to build it once the right way then build a place that needs maintenance or major rehab in a decade. I'm thinking more like Europeans build vs our typical 30 year 2x4 stick built construction we do here in the US. Most of the stuff I see here is built to last a decade or two. I want 5+ decades.

Because people suck and having somewhere to get away from them would be nice.

This X 1,000,000

I don't disagree; but if I'm going to spend the money and make the effort, I'd prefer to have running water and more than a hole in the dirt to take a shit.

Different strokes for different folks. Ill be spending the majority of next week camping w/o water, toilets, showers, electric, etc. and thats what I do for fun. Factor in Ive spent close to 40 years in the most densely packed state in the union and Ive always felt out of place, I do not like crowds, I do not like the speed at which people live up here, nor do I like the crappy attitudes that I think are fostered in this area. When I take breaks I like total isolation from the outside world besides the few good people that are with me.

Cat holes and shit pits don't bother me, but I'd build an outhouse if the local ordinances would allow one. Water falls from the sky for free so I'd set up some sort of gravity system, but in a region that's below freezing for 4-5 months a year plumbing is a huge PITA. Thats why most budget Alaskan homes are dry. Think someone here posted this last week "when you carry your water, you will learn the value of every drop" and that summarizes my personal relationship with nature.
 
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CowboyTaco

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I can definitely understand that.

Gravity fed water system is not much different than getting it from the city. The point of a water tower, as I understand it, is for water pressure. So it sounds like you are planning to have a water collection system located at higher elevation than the house, which provides you running water. Most likely water that is "cleaner" than what you would get coming from a treatment facility. What about something that allows for a well that could be used to supplement water in times of drought?

Our hunting camp back in TX had well water as well as a pretty clean creek running through it. We only had to pay for electric, and I would love to have some kind of solar installed.

When I first read your post, I envisioned something like the cabin in Montana where Ted Kaczynski resided.
 

Oswego

n00b
I can definitely understand that.

Gravity fed water system is not much different than getting it from the city. The point of a water tower, as I understand it, is for water pressure. So it sounds like you are planning to have a water collection system located at higher elevation than the house, which provides you running water. Most likely water that is "cleaner" than what you would get coming from a treatment facility. What about something that allows for a well that could be used to supplement water in times of drought?

Our hunting camp back in TX had well water as well as a pretty clean creek running through it. We only had to pay for electric, and I would love to have some kind of solar installed.

When I first read your post, I envisioned something like the cabin in Montana where Ted Kaczynski resided.

I'm looking for land that has a spring or stream on it and or borders a stream/river. Ideally I could drop my kayak in on the property, but water also brings undesirables in times of need so I'm on the fence about proximity to it. Seems the cheap land is the wetland thus my pier foundation. Really not interested in much water infrastructure for me. It will be freezing most of the time Ill be there and wells cost thousands in the region I'm looking. Put more work into the land and retaining water on it in the summer. A stocked pond is on my wish list.

This is the kind of land I'm looking for. If it was listed at 50k I'd be up there asking to camp/explore on it for a weekend a year ago. Not happy it has neighbors in the front and back to see the comings and goings, but the back border is state park so that's ideal
Middleburgh, Schoharie County, NY Land for sale Property ID: 331261979 | LandWatch

Pretty much like his cabin but no red barn wood siding... lol
 

tx_shooter

It is not a war crime the first time.
Staff member
Well new dishwasher is running the test load meow. It does not appear to have any leaks so once this is done I will finish the install. My sammich maker is already happier. I am a bit less happy since I sliced open my trigger finger on the frame when I was unboxing it and I have a work trip tomorrow. Probably picking up more liquid bandaid in a bit to help seal this thing up.
 

tex

That's Mr Asshole to you
Had a good season last year and added 2 mounts to my collection so to the living room they went. I had to change the bulbs over to LED since the halogens get super hot.
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Silverback

Lima Gulf Bravo Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
Upgraded one of the subs in my media room today. Didn't really need it... but the thing was on sale. Sooo.. Anyhow, I have 5 powered subs in the media room. Front left and right are Definitive Tech BP2001's towers with powered 12's in each, center is a Def Tech C/L/R 2005 (iirc) with a powered 8" in it. I also have a Polk powered 12"... (have a matching Polk powered 10" in the garage) and finally a Klipsch Reference 12". Well the Klipsch absolutely destroys the Polk in terms of output. Its just a monster. I really don't need either cause the Def Techs are no slouch.. but hey.. fuck it. So now the Polk 12" is going out to the garage and compliment the Polk 10 out there and the new Klipsch is joining his brother in the rear of the media room to provide taint tickling sensations for all to enjoy. One in each corner.
 

CowboyTaco

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Nice! I have the 10" Klipsh in our living room and love it. I recently added the Klipsh R-51-M bookshelf speakers to the front. I need to get some satellite speakers, but my living room isn't really setup to allow it cleanly. 3 kids under 3 means anything with a cord gets pulled over....so I don't want to put them on stands.

Looking up the part number, those Klipsh fronts are on a hell of a sale at BestBuy right now...

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsc...jCJcYmj0y_XAuLOsdGBoCeRIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
 

Silverback

Lima Gulf Bravo Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
That is a good deal. I have 2 pairs of surround speakers, sides are Definitive Tech Studio Monitor 350's and rears are Definitive Tech Studio Monitor 450's. I got my 350's in a similar deal, not quite half price but close.
 

CowboyTaco

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With the recent lack of rain, our water bill has doubled as my wife wants to save her plants. So I opted to install some soaker hoses and eliminate some water waste. I've had mixed results using soaker hoses, so hopefully this will be one of the better experiences.

It looks wet where the hose is because the mulch had been disturbed. I don't think I had run them yet when the picture was taken.

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If it works, I'll bore under thr sidewalk and permanently plumb in the small side.
 

Silverback

Lima Gulf Bravo Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
I had an old co-worker do similar but to his whole yard! Before they put down the sod he ran soaker lines all through-out his yard.. maybe 15 inches apart. Buried it all with sod and then had the soakers going to a big ass manifold with probably 8 valves on it. Worked great for about 4 years or so. The he had them put in a real sprinkler system. He cut off what was above the surface and the sprinkler guys removed what they ran into but he left it buried.
 

Anathollo

Armorall is my choice of lube
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With the recent lack of rain, our water bill has doubled as my wife wants to save her plants. So I opted to install some soaker hoses and eliminate some water waste. I've had mixed results using soaker hoses, so hopefully this will be one of the better experiences.

It looks wet where the hose is because the mulch had been disturbed. I don't think I had run them yet when the picture was taken.

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If it works, I'll bore under thr sidewalk and permanently plumb in the small side.
My mom has used these for as long as I can remember and they work well.
 

CowboyTaco

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We tried them at our first house in Texas because of the whole "you need to water your foundation" thing that everyone does. Didn't do squat to help there. We have a community garden at the office and they are doing quite well there. Since this application is to water plants and not concrete, I'm thinking this should save us quite a bit on water. Plus, I can water at any time of the day!
 
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